As fun as it always has been watching Chris Christie smack down union leaders, stuff like this is just one of the reasons why I was never on the “Draft Christie” bandwagon:

Chris Christie weighed in on the Occupy Wall Street protesters yesterday asserting that they “come from the same perspective” but have “different solutions.”

“What they are saying is, that ‘Government is not working for me anymore, government is not being fair and government is not helping me the way it should,'” he added.

Absolutely clueless.


For this hour’s example of an OWS sympathizer who is “just like a Tea Partier except with different ideas for solutions,” click here. Or here.


32 Responses to “Chris Christie: Tea Party and OWS ‘Come From Same Perspective But Have Different Solutions’”

  1. Patti on October 18th, 2011 5:53 pm

    Ann Barnhardt thought Christie was a fat Ronald Reagan….
    now, she says, no, he's just fat!! LOL
    I agree, Ann.

  2. Marshall_Will on October 18th, 2011 6:38 pm

    It's possible Christie's fluffiness is the result of all that STRAW he's packing around? The Tea Party never MADE the claim "Government is not working for me any more".

    We've said there's to MUCH of it.., we'd like to see LESS gov't in our lives and when we -do- send people to DC it's under the premise of getting things UNdone, not more done. For a larger dude, he sure can spin!

    AFAIK the OWS-baggers aren't real big on the whole personal accountability thing Chris. But thanks for including us in the same ridiculous sentence!

  3. Pasadena Phil on October 18th, 2011 7:32 pm

    You beat me to it. We want to send someone to Washington to get things UNdone.

    These guys still don't get it. There is a moment in the final chapter in the book "Too Big to Fail" where Juan McCain suspends his campaign (the final nail in his coffin) to prop up Hank Paulson's efforts to sell his TARP bill to Congress but which was failing, particularly among the Republicans. As the DC leaders which include Bush, Cheney, Boehner, Cantor, Reid, McConnell, Pelosi, McCain and Obama engage in discussions at the WH that quickly deteriorate into a shouting match, it becomes clear how DC got into that situation and what was standing in the way of a resolution: no one at the table had any political capital to take to the people.

    It reminds me of that moment soon after the 2004 election when "W" claimed a mandate and so declared that he was loaded with political capital and intended to use it. What it amounted to was that he felt that he could defy his base to finally wage his campaign for his two signature new big government Kennedy-approved entitlements while also waging war against the voters to deliver on the other big Kennedy issue: amnesty. Because of that, the GOP got crushed in the 2006 elections and Bush had no capital left in a critical crisis. And now the ever clueless and arrogant McCain was committing political suicide believing that he was heroically delivering that capital. Later that day, a frustrated Paulson would find himself on one knee BEGGING Pelosi to give him one more chance to deliver the Republicans. We all know what happened after that.

    What that scene demonstrated in spades was that when government embarks on bold adventures without first winning the consent of the voters, it is powerless to act if those adventures end in folly. We have been circling the drain since that moment and now find ourselves probably permanently divided as a country.

    It is no longer a political problem but a fundamentally ideological problem. The government-dependent half of the country that pays no taxes believes that the government needs to get much bigger. The other Tea Party half believes that we already have far too much government. It is irreconcilable. There is no political solution once a country has so drifted from its founding principles, principles that once made us exceptional.

    And now we are going to be asked to hold our noses one more time and hope for 2016? Once again we are going to have to choose between the LOTE, a choice that merely continues the rolling catastrophe? If we don't get it right in 2012, it's too late.

  4. Marshall_Will on October 18th, 2011 10:18 pm

    "We have been circling the drain since that moment and now find ourselves probably permanently divided as a country."

    I'll agree on the first past and defer on the second. True, I've passed the strainer w/ increased Venturi effect so many times I've lost count but we've been perma-divided as a Nation for some time.

    It's just that now, the whole affair has become decidedly PUBLIC. No-load teacher's unions and PEU's have been -laughing- at us for years. So in that regard; Bring.It.On

    The War On The Taxpayer, parents, has all been under the guise of 'helping' the students etc. As I've said of the Hero Trades, Mr. Fireman, if you see me and I'm engulfed in flames, just yell out the window "Stop, Drop and ROLL duuuude!" because it is all the public 'services' I can afford?

    At least now we KNOW The Rulebook Kamp Alinsky Kids PLAY by! Not long ago we didn't have a clue. If you'll notice Phil, at a local level their little bait & switch ballot measures have failed miserably.

  5. Pasadena Phil on October 18th, 2011 10:32 pm

    I'd agree if it weren't for all of the people who plan on holding their noses again to guarantee that everything we fought against will prevail except with a Republican in the WH. This is likely our last chance. I hope I'm wrong but just don't see the Tea Party winning enough House seats to offset the damage a Romney or Perry will do as they rename Obamacare, pass an amnesty bill and the rest. Just read the comments on Malkin. She is the last of the die-hards and even she is preparing to hold her nose again. Hopeless.

  6. Marshall_Will on October 19th, 2011 12:25 am

    Phil, take heart. This from Pajamas Media

    "In what is being viewed as a dress rehearsal for the general election in 2012, Spain’s Socialist Party on May 22 suffered its worst defeat in municipal polls since Spain returned to democracy in 1978 after the death of the dictator General Francisco Franco. Amid mass anger at Spain’s failing economy, the center-right opposition Popular Party won 37.5 percent of the municipal vote across the country, compared with 28 percent for the Socialist Party. The left-wing El País newspaper described the defeat as “a tsunami drowning the Socialists.”

    And this is in SPAIN mind you!

  7. Marshall_Will on October 19th, 2011 12:27 am


    Additionally, while I'm waiting for a great ref. from Pj'sMedia about the sound -thrashing- Socialists took in Spain: I don't think MM is in any way throwing in the towel this early in the game. Or period for that matter.

    She's just keeping a running tally AFAICT.

  8. SignPainterGuy on October 19th, 2011 1:25 am

    Some parts of Europe are waking up. Now to see if this trend holds thru the elections and then, will they do anything to restrict further influx of mooslimes !?

  9. Truesoldier on October 18th, 2011 6:44 pm

    Speaking of OWS and Obama….

    Wall Street donors are telling Dems they cant have it both ways:

    “You can’t have it both ways,” said one in-house financial services lobbyist. “It just makes it harder for people who are Democrats in New York, Boston, Chicago to on the one hand be demogagued and then be asked ‘Hey, you can get your picture with the president for $30,000.’ It doesn’t square.”

    and the OWS (NC branch) is pulling the BS card on Obama's support:

    A group of “Occupy” activists in Greensboro, N.C., asked for a meeting with the president, who stayed overnight Monday in a local hotel. But Mr. Obama didn’t bite.

    “About 50 people protested as Obama’s motorcade made it’s way to the Proximity Hotel,” Ben Lassiter, a member of Occupy Greensboro, wrote on the group’s Facebook page. “As he passed the chant was, ‘Hey Obama, I’m no fool, I know you’re a corporate tool.’”

  10. Marshall_Will on October 18th, 2011 7:04 pm


    But they can and they WILL have it both ways for as long as the LSM allows them to. Dims are just stalling for time. They haven't a clue and have gone from NLAGCGTW to simply becoming "crisis dependent".

    Without a situation that's worsening by the hour, even many formerly loyal Dim voters have figured them out.

    Take healthcare. How is creating ever broader divides between voters and age groups made that situation any better? Even the dimmest of the Dims has come to the conclusion there HAS to be cooperation for there to be healing! From Dr. to LPN, from Insurer to the PATIENT to the janitor to the congresscritter that finally sees the light and gets the hell out of the way?

    Safe to say most if not all those now calling O'Drama a 'tool' VOTED for the guy.

  11. Truesoldier on October 18th, 2011 7:50 pm

    So true. I just hope that enough of these people wake up enough to not vote for Obama in 2012.

  12. SignPainterGuy on October 18th, 2011 7:37 pm

    Today at an out of town Burger King drive-thru, a young girl went out of her way to strike up a conversation, so she could tell me she was looking forward to going down to NY to take some stuff to the occupiers there. "Have you heard about it ? What do you think about it ?" After a brief non-plussed look, I told her, "Oh yes, they`re stupid and utterly hypocritical !" You should have seen the look on her face ! I told that "This right here is capitalism. They couldn`t make it without it and would hate it if they got what they`re demanding !" She assured me, she didn`t need it, didn`t need her job, would love it. She had worked on farms, grew up on one, didn`t need anything bought. I asked, "You don`t need salt, pepper and sugar ?" NO ! "No store-bought clothes ?" NO ! "I`d love it !"

    She handed me my bag, I noticed a line behind me, so I repeated "No, you`d hate it !" and drove away. It wasn`t until I`d finished my fries and burger that I realized I didn`t get my drink. Oh well, I didn`t get a receipt with my change either, so getting my drink would be difficult. Luckily, I carry a small cooler with drinks and water. Ah, capitalism; gotta be prepared.

  13. Truesoldier on October 18th, 2011 7:48 pm

    What I love is how all the OWS types are tweeting about how terrible capitalism is on the IPhone's and iPad's. What is sad is if you point that out to them they would just look at you like you have no idea what you are talking about.

  14. Marshall_Will on October 18th, 2011 8:02 pm


    Great story! It hits home for all of us. Even our youngest daughter is a bit perplexed. Her husband's internship ( WITH the State btw ) evaporates come Nov. He'll be elig. for Unemployment but was clearly hoping it would develop into FT.

    Now that it seems that's a longshot, people like her will become susceptible to mo' "training program pandering". She KNOWS that garbage is a joke, but they have a 3 y.o, rent, bills etc.

    Yeah, it's a scary world out there kid! And this is precisely WHERE we need to be as Conservatives, firm.., but supportive, in the Right direction!

  15. SignPainterGuy on October 18th, 2011 8:25 pm

    Here`s an e-pat on the shoulders; you strike me as a good Daddy and the girls seem not oblivious to realities. Yeah, so many of these programs are only temp., but you have to look at the fine print`s fine print to find the truth.

    You hear the dim pols touting these jobs programs and defending the huge $ amounts, but never mention that the funding is only for 1 year. And as we saw with the banking bailouts, the banks were forced to take the bailouts. With state programs, they`re given no recourse either !

  16. Marshall_Will on October 18th, 2011 10:21 pm


    Thanks! Supporting each other down the stretch becomes more critical as we near the finish line. Or I should say, Starting Line.

    You bring up such an excellent point. The programs last a little longer than a lapdance but the Visa bills keep coming in from that (1) night. Hope everyone thought it was worth it.

  17. SignPainterGuy on October 19th, 2011 12:13 am

    Interesting turn of phrase.

    Dims: "Do what we say, don`t examine what we say, just do it !"

  18. SignPainterGuy on October 18th, 2011 8:03 pm

    Exactly ! I really did want to continue our discussion and make your point; that was next in my mind, but holding up the drive-thru is a "capitol" offense ! 😉

  19. Truesoldier on October 18th, 2011 7:56 pm

    I heard some 21yr old girl complaining how she has over $100,000 in student loans that she now has to pay back, but the payments are just too much for her to handle (makes me wonder what she majored in). She blames the bank for loaning it to her of course. If this keeps up how long will it be till banks get tired of being demonized and stop lending money to people in the form of student loans? Of course if that happens then you'll have the same crowd claiming that the system is rigged so only the rich can get a good education.

  20. Pasadena Phil on October 18th, 2011 8:36 pm

    Here's an excellent piece from this morning on Zero Hedge on student loan fraud.

  21. Granny55 on October 18th, 2011 10:17 pm

    And they were giving out these student loans for living expenses so the little snots didn't have to work while going to school. Evidently slinging burgers was beneath them while going to school. My daughter carried 16-19 credit hours per semester and sometimes worked two jobs, along with being a member of and getting a minor in Military Science thru ROTC. She went four years and her total student loan bill was less than $14K when she graduated. She paid that off during her two tours in Kuwait and Iraq. So the whiners can stick it where the sun don't shine as far as I am concerned.

  22. Pasadena Phil on October 18th, 2011 10:26 pm

    I was a hermit until I graduated with my MBA at 28 with almost $40k in loans despite working for most of my college years and every summer. It took me until I was in my 40s before I paid them all back but I paid back every cent.

  23. SignPainterGuy on October 19th, 2011 12:45 am

    Your daughter is a very special woman and sounds to have bucked trends frequently. Good for her !

  24. Marshall_Will on October 18th, 2011 10:26 pm

    Tyler Durden said:
    "To be sure, when the implications of the $850+ billion student loan bubble blowing up spread through the financial markets, it will make subprime seem like a tame walk in the park."

    Right, nothing to see here folks! Move along… And at the same time Prog wants to dole out even MORE education loans to people that aren't even here legally. What could possibly go wrong?

  25. SignPainterGuy on October 19th, 2011 12:19 am

    Doug, I submitted a comment at MM`s on the debate thread, and got a wordpress notice that the comments were closed. Did you or MM close the thread or did wordpress ?

  26. Doug on October 19th, 2011 12:27 am

    Should be working now! I was doing an update and somehow half the post got wiped out, AND the box to allow comments got unchecked. Thank God for "auto-save"… I could re-post what was saved from a previous draft.

    Comments should be back up now!

  27. SignPainterGuy on October 19th, 2011 12:38 am

    Thank you Doug, yes they are ! Now to decide if my comment I lost is worth the trouble of reposting. I forgot much of it already ! 😉

  28. Doug on October 19th, 2011 1:20 am

    Unfortunately there's no auto-save for comments that got wiped out. Sorry!

  29. SignPainterGuy on October 19th, 2011 2:09 am

    That`s fine Doug, thanks, besides, though a longish post, it really was just agreements and a rehash of something I`ve said a couple times before; once here I think. I`m cool !

  30. Marshall_Will on October 19th, 2011 12:28 am


    Probably due to a lack of enthusiasm..?

  31. SignPainterGuy on October 19th, 2011 12:39 am

    Not on my part. The debate threads are among my faves ! 😉

  32. Hyperfobea on October 19th, 2011 9:23 am

    Anyone happen to notice the not-too-subtle allusions to obesity employed in a *bulk* of the articles about Christie? E.g., "Chris Christie weighed in … " at Jenny Craig? Easy targets are very tempting.

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