First of all, we seem to be back online. There was a server issue that is now corrected… hopefully.

Back to business at hand…

To Obama, this is not breaking his promise to avoid raising taxes on the middle class, because as they keep telling everybody, Obamacare is not a tax. But a tax by any other name is still going to nail the middle class big time:

Stephen Moore, Senior Economics Writer with the Wall Street Journal, told FOX and Friends this morning that nearly 75% of Obamacare costs will fall on the backs of those Americans making less than $120,000 a year.

I think I’ll trademark the question, “You mean my free health care isn’t free?” If I can get a dime every time it’s uttered in the coming years, I’ll put the proceeds towards my Obamacare bill.

Fortunately for Obama, by design, people won’t begin to feel this for several months or even years, so people supporting it won’t realize they were lied to (again) until well after the November election:

I was going to write about this one here Friday afternoon but the site went down, but it’s a good fit with the “middle class hardest hit” Obamacare theme:

The Obama administration on Friday threatened to veto a defense appropriations bill in part because it does not include higher health care fees for members of the military.

“The Administration is disappointed that the Congress did not incorporate the requested TRICARE fee initiatives into either the appropriation or authorization legislation,” the White House wrote in an official policy statement expressing opposition to the bill, which the House approved in May.

“Shared sacrifice.”

Comments

29 Responses to “WSJ Economist: 75% of Obamacare Cost Will Fall on Those Making Less Than $120,000 a Year”

  1. backwoodsconsr on July 2nd, 2012 11:40 am

    A tax by any other name would cost as much.

    Gee, who could have known that the bed of roses Obama promised us would come complete with thorns.

  2. jeffythequick on July 2nd, 2012 12:05 pm

    Listening to Joe Pags, and he's calling it ObamaTax, but I don't think it goes far enough:

    How about:
    ObamaCareTax
    ObamaTaxCare

    anyone?

    On another topic, I'm sure no one will make the connection between SCOTUS ruling and this:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/1/ar

  3. backwoodsconsr on July 2nd, 2012 12:14 pm

    Blessed be Obama, who cares enough to tax us.

  4. Marshall_Will on July 2nd, 2012 12:30 pm

    I just can't take another gov. program that's seriously over-promised and incessantly under-funded. If you think you're sick & tired hearing about how Social Security and Medi are on the brink of insolvency wait til THIS monstrosity moves in to invade your every waking thought.

    Where TriCare is concerned, I'm less than beaming w/ my fellow service members. The avg. cost to them for a child is about $200 out-of-pocket. By today's standards, and certainly where the middle class is concerned, TC has become a Cadillac Plan.

    Raising the cost by -any- measure is just unthinkable to many. In my mind, Unsustainability is the enemy. And clearly TC is unsustainable. We can do better.

  5. jeffythequick on July 2nd, 2012 12:44 pm

    That's what the young, smitten girls use to hang up their Obama posters on their walls, next to their Justin Bieber poster.

  6. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 1:26 pm

    Here is a thought regarding the whole SC decision that has decidided that it is Constitutional to tax individuals for inactivity. This can very easily lead to the total control of Americans and this is why.

    If you can now be taxed for not doing something those taxes could become endless. The government can now pass taxes on any type of inactivity it deems. You want to end the homeless problem….tax people who do not have a home or apartment. If they do not pay the tax the government can throw them in jail for tax evasion. Dealing with those of us who do not believe in "green energy". Pass a law to stating everyone has to have an electric car or pay a tax. You dont pay the tax he government can throw them in jail for tax evasion. The government could do this with any group out there that they disagree with. If they make the taxes high enough (and the Obamacare tax is a progressive tax btw) then people will be forced to comply or be carted off to jail for tax evasion.

  7. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 1:32 pm

    I totally agree, especially in light of the fact that many TriCare recpients are sent to civilian offices to receive their care as the MTF (Military Treatment Facilities) have a hard enough time just providing care for the service members themselves. Especially with the latest round of budget cuts; yet we are still fighting a war and have a lot of wounded service members who need care (once again the military expecting to do more with less).

  8. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 1:40 pm

    How about just plain Obamatax?

  9. Marshall_Will on July 2nd, 2012 1:59 pm

    Again, and I don't suppose I'm MM's "favorite poster" any time this comes up ( I think her folks were MD's ) but I've grown tired of, by default, becoming a "cheerleader" for the status quo?

    Last week when Laura took over the show, Bill O phoned in his thoughts and I believe placed the debate in proper context. It's been the insurance companies, drug companies and MD's themselves that allowed us to reach this point. As IS, you can't live 'with' healthcare premiums and you DAMN sure can't live without them!

    Bill pointed out that (1) illness can cost you everything you own, everything you've worked for all your life. Leaving your heirs nothing. And of course none of us want that. So I already felt over a barrel before the "non-compliance" issue arose.

  10. Marshall_Will on July 2nd, 2012 2:05 pm

    Grew fearful of this when the folly of WA state hybrid veh. owners ( as well as OR ) got stung for a "tax" because since they weren't BUYING any gas at the pump or very little, they weren't… wait for it… Paying Their Fair Share! (TM)

    So in essence, we've had this surface previously. The gov. is bracing for a wave of underground economy/Mother Jones' responses from the public since the 70's. Brewing your own beer means you're not paying alcohol taxes! So your 'permit' to make home brew will have to take that into account.

    You're right, the possibilities ( in their minds ) are endless!

  11. clu seatoe on July 2nd, 2012 2:36 pm

    A desperate NHS hospital patient who died of thirst after he was denied vital medication rang police and begged them to bring him a drink, an inquest heard today.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167643/H

  12. clu seatoe on July 2nd, 2012 2:38 pm

    If it’s not a tax then why is the IRS involved?

  13. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 2:41 pm

    Meanwhile, the burecrats of the NHS are driving luxury cars paid for by the British taxpayers….
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9370

  14. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 2:41 pm

    I love this. Pelosi is saying that this tax is to punish the "free riders" who expect ohters to pay for their healthcare. So how exactly is the IRS to collect a tax from those who are in the country illegally?

  15. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 2:47 pm

    Not only that, but if Obama and the Dems say it is not a tax it is a penalty then how can they continue to go forward with the law when the court said that it is only constitutional if it is a tax and unconstitutional as a penalty.

  16. Marshall_Will on July 2nd, 2012 3:02 pm

    No kidding. And are we to believe that all these affluent "free riders" are using the Free Clinic to get those w@rts and drips looked at..? Sending their daughters that live inside gated golf course communities down to Planned Parenthood to allow thier -butchers- to "take care of that little matter"? You know, before the first semester at University of Puget Sound starts up?

    It's ridiculous and Nancy knows it but ridiculous is all they've got left.

  17. Marshall_Will on July 2nd, 2012 3:04 pm

    Oh, well that's an interesting wrinkle? Sounds like an honor system to ME then! As Charles Krauthammer said, "Am I getting a Speeding 'Penalty' officer? Or is it a ticket or a 'tax'..?

  18. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 3:10 pm

    Here is another little wrinkle that many have not thought of. Remember, it is not only that you purchase health insurance it is that you purchase health insurance that has benn approved as a "qualified plan".

    How much you want to bet that for your plan to be qulaified it will have to cover contraceptives, abortion on demand, cosmetic surgery, etc. Which would leave out tri-care, medicare/medicaid, many plans offered by many churches, etc.

  19. SignPainterGuy on July 2nd, 2012 3:21 pm

    With HHS Sec. Kathleeeeeeeeen Sabilius (sp?) in charge and able to write the rules as she goes and according to her whims du jour, you can bet ONLY those plans approved by her will be allowed.

  20. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 3:31 pm

    Not to mention they could work it to ensure that everyone pays a tax no matter what. Remember that if your plan is deemed a "cadillac plan" then you have to pay a tax on it. So all that has to happen is that HHS rules that the only plans that are "qualified" are those that would be deemed "cadillac plans". So if you have a "qualified" inusrance plan you pay a tax and if you don't have a "qualified" plan you pay a tax.

  21. SignPainterGuy on July 2nd, 2012 3:54 pm

    So, it appears the cat is out of the bag; Obama and the dims who pushed ObamaScareTax were after more ways to tax everyone and control every possible aspect of everyone`s lives and businesses.

    WE now have a mandate to elect conservatives to control both houses of congress and the Presidency and re-write the tax code after repealing every hint of this horrible law ! Just for starters !

  22. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 4:00 pm

    Not only do we need to rewrite the tax code, but with this SC decesion we need a new Constitutional ammendment that state, "Congress shall pass no laws taxing econokic inactivity" or something along those lines.

  23. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 4:19 pm

    I have another question. Seeing as "children" can be on your policy till the age of 26, if you do not cover them till 26 will you be taxed for not covering your eligible "child"?

  24. backwoodsconsr on July 2nd, 2012 5:16 pm

    Remember the good old days when dependent children were tax deductions?

  25. SignPainterGuy on July 2nd, 2012 6:05 pm

    "econokic" ? Is that economic policy that "knocks ya down" ? Seems to fit !

    We need restrictions on how and what kind of laws / taxes can be passed. I want to see laws limited to a few pages, written in laymen`s terms and read in front of the house before any voting begins or even debate.

  26. SignPainterGuy on July 2nd, 2012 6:20 pm

    As we here are well aware, this whole thing isn`t about healthcare at all, but power, control and the traincar loads of money that can be stolen from us thru taxes. We are also aware that many in this administration believe in population control; they want us to have fewer if any children. SOOOO, it stands to reason, by their screwed up reasoning methods, that we would be taxed for having or NOT having children in any circumstance.

    I truly hope that congress sees this new unimaginable taxing power of congress and Agency heads like Kathleeeeeen Sebelius as too much power for even the wizards of smart to wield and take it upon themselves to remove that power. Yeah, I`m probably dreaming, but that`s what I see as part of the result of / idea behind Justice Roberts` decision.

  27. Truesoldier__ on July 2nd, 2012 6:34 pm

    Does sound about right.

    I totally agree with that. If the law cannot be written on a single sheet of paper then it does not need to be.

  28. Toni on July 2nd, 2012 10:04 pm

    Personally, I really believe this tax is nothing but a bunch of bull$h*t! We need to correct this matter, how I don't know, after all those that begin in politics to be true & just end up like the rest of them, corrupt due to $$$$$, our money that pays them for the rest of their stinking lives. I am about ready to leave this democracy that staryed out with all of these illegals coming in @ Ellis Island & being told the "English is this nations' language & to LEARN IT! NOT us being forced to learn theirs & US supporting their illegal a$$e$!! The illegals won't be required to pay this tax, but we will continue to support them. Then the younger ones will figure out how many babies to have so they all will be free. This country that our servicemen have fought & dies for are now doing that for "obamacare". Carry him OUT!!!

  29. ChapBix on July 3rd, 2012 1:33 am

    "You want to end the homeless problem….tax people who do not have a home or apartment. If they do not pay the tax the government can throw them in jail for tax evasion."

    Like that is going to happen!

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