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Never.
Whenever I hear people complain about the wars that followed 9-11, I think of the words of a friend who said, "The thing I like about Bush is, he understands that when somebody comes into your house and punches you in the nose, you've got to kick their ass."
Never.
MM rightly points out the failing -since- that day on the Security front. My focus has been our complete unwillingness to diversify our *economic* assets.
An attack today would leave us no less crippled financially as all major exchanges STILL physically reside in NYC. Along with our major banking concerns. The same town that brought us the Subprime Crisis, MF Global, AIG, Bear Stearns and countless other meltdowns.
The Pentagon should have been essentially decommissioned and converted into a tourist attraction. Much as Alcatraz has been since the 70's. With everything from stock trading to intelligence moving to a cyber/cloud platform, why do we have traffic jams and outrageously expensive housing in NYC and DC again..?
I cannot say much about NYC and the financial side of it, but I can tell you that when it comes to the Pentagon the largest problem is politics. It actually is cheaper and easier to have the "top brass" located in and around the DC area so the political movers and shakers can call them up to the hill at a moments notice.
When it comes to an attack, yes it is a target due to the large concentration of troops, but only as a psyops target as the command and control of the Armed Forces can be maintained from a number of very high end/ low profile locations around the country.
TS,
Over the last several years many traders have argued against the expense and kabuki of even HAVING these physical stock exchanges. We're shifting toward "virtual exchanges" eventually.
Many argue, "What is their purpose, so CNBC has something visual they can televise?" They've become something of a sacred cow.
My older, Prog-to-the-bone sister was stationed at Ft. Meade back in the day. MAN do this people ever see the world as evolving around 'them'. It permeates their every thought and we are ALL in the backwaters where they are concerned!
The sheer expense of keeping these dinosaurs operational doesn't end w/ the utilities ( security ) and upkeep! Whether you're a bond investor or taxpayer, we all fork over for inflated salaries so these people can live in high ( and vulnerable ) concentrations. We can do better. I suspected the Pentagon became something of a shell since 9/11.
As a nation, we for the most part understand that any sign of weakness the enemy sees only acts to strengthen them. The problem is that so many of the political elites and media elites have decided that the way to fight a war is to do so in a kinder, gentler way were we "arrest" the enemy, give them Constitutional protections and a trial.
War isn't pretty or romantic. It is brutal and vicious. If we are not going to fight to win, then we have no reason to fight at all. The current ROE ties the hands of our troops and leaves them second guessing on whether or not they can "legally" attack. Some of these crazy ROE's begin to show up under the Bush administration and have only gotten worse under the Obama administration.
How utterly typical of NBC:
NBC’s ‘Today’ Skips 9/11 Moment Of Silence For Kardashian Interview
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/nbcs-today-sk…
And the NYT's:
NYT uses 9/11 to Blame Bush
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bus…
I totally agree. CNBC could very easily put a "blue screen" mock up as a background to do their reports from. The Pentagon is much more a shell than it ever was. It has become a symbol of the political medling into the day to day lives of our servicemen. Some of the decisions that come out of there were obviously made by those who got to where they are through sheer political and family connections as it is painfully obvious that they have never been in the sh!t and couldn't lead themselves out of a wet paper bag.
Take for example the military uniforms. From the changing the headgear to the beret to the new digitized uniforms, all these decisions were made more on the basis of what General could go down in the history books as being the one to make the changes instead of being done for functionality. For proof of this look no further than the reversal on the headgear back to the patrol cap and the digitized patters are being changed as they were inefective.
Of course it is the taxpayers who get to fund this "legacy building".
In Blaming Bush ( Part 973,214 ) the author uses the term 'neoconservative' no less than 5 times in (1) single paragraph. At least that's where I lost track. Supposing he felt this was to devastating effect! Just can't gets me e'nuff uh dat.
Anyway, any memo, however pinpoint accurate, circulated on Aug. 6th 2001 would have ironically left President Bush w/ only (1) concrete option in the month that remained:
CLOSE The Exchanges: SHUT DOWN Air Travel and: EVACUATE Lower Manhattan..! Again, assuming their intel indicated precisely that!
Which is in effect EXACTLY what the jihadists wanted to accomplish! I think we've indulged everyone from Rosie O to this clown rather enough.
"a symbol of the political meddling"
I'd say it's -always- been that. Only now, that is ALL it stands for!
Every officer personally known to me ultimately admitted their tour "in DC" was a joke and total waste of time. Writing up reports on… pregnant female PT standards or whatever?
But what's incredible is, DURING their time there they were led to believe or led -themselves- to believe what they were working on was the most important thing in the world! As is the case w/ everyone in DC. There's a def. formula of manipulation. And yes, being in Supply, I SEE all those ridonkulus uniform item 'changes'.
DC is like a portal into an alternate reality that is for sure.
9-11-01 NEVER FORGET !
I remember it, who attacked us and why, Bush`s response, the uniting of our nation …. for a few weeks, then the lefty return to their anti-do the right thing stance.
I can`t forget ! I won`t forget !
For example, the BAH Rates are the highest in the country:
Even an E-1 gets $1,902 a MONTH. The sad part is s/he will need every PENNY of it! Probably a room mate or 3 to make the math work out to boot.
To look at DC & NYC home prices, you'd never guess there was a housing bust? We've done nothing but double down on stoopid in the past dozen years.
Seems you could look at just about any bigger city and see that. Even out in Seattle the home prices are yet again on the rise, along with a lot of the shaddy subprime mortgages.
And if that isn't bad enough, it looks like Moody's is ready to downgrade the US credit rating again unless their is a eal to lower the debt to GDP ratio (good luck with that happening in an election year).
http://www.forexlive.com/blog/2012/09/11/moodys-e…
Sadly, Seattle, like Portland and SF didn't see much of a 'correction' in home prices. As bubble bloggers our basic theory was that PMI ( now defunct Private Mortgage Insurance ) simply could not afford another major-metro meltdown like was seen in PHX/LV and the entire state of FL.
So they've kept the foreclosures OFF the market and/or elected not to foreclose, in many cases, even if they can't FIND the owner? You're right, our Median has crept back up all summer down here.
My point was tho', as an E-1, these are fresh out of HS folks that ( no offense ) are untrained UNDEPLOYABLE boot camps! And we're STILL paying them an add'l $2 grand a mo. to live there! Just think what we're paying all those Best & Brightest on the Civ. side?
And the officers as well.
Speaking of the civies out there. I saw yesterday that the pink slip notices to the defense contractors (part of the $5 billion in cuts to the DoD from the debt deal) will be going out right before the election.
I wonder how much that is going to effect the election in the Northern Virginia and DC areas?
Who would have ever believed in less than 10 years America would have a muslim president that hates the country and NYC would have a Jewish mayor advocating a ground zero mosque?
Lol, yeah, don't forget the zeros! I'm training one now but he totally gets it. He's apprehensive over taking his turn in the barrel but I think it centers on will he have a Civ. job when he gets back?
Yeah, part of the $5 bil 'deal'. You mean the one we didn't have to MAKE? The one where the Weeper and Can'torWon't gave away the farm when we had Dims on the ROPES?
The one where didn't get a Budget in exchange? THAT 'deal'? You know, given those pink slips go out right before, shooting an email to Doug/MM wouldn't be the worst idea here.
Yep that's the one. Wonder how much of a repeat it will be this month?
Speaking of liberals having a pre 9/11 mentality. I see that the the "largely secular" muslims in Egypt have scaled the wall of the US embassy in Cairo, tore down the US Flag and have either tried or succeeded in replacing it with a certain black flag that has the saying "There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is his messenger". All this going on while the Obama adminstration is negotiating a deal to fogive $1 billion in debt Egypt owes us (while they are trying to buy German subs).
All apparently over a 13 min. film by Coptic Christians. More tolerance on display!
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContentP/1/52569/…
Obama is busy talking about the Dolphins and Bears on some ghetto radio show in FLA.
And just the other day he's upping His 'cool points' calling into some hip-hop station…
We'd have Leslie Nielsen run the country but unfortunately he passed away.
I don't know, even though he passed away I believe he would do a better job,.
Yeah, and I see where the administration is telling the Coptic Christians that they need to tone it down and be more tolerant.
Of course the fact that this is happening on Septemeber 11th has nothing to do with it at all…../sarc
"Yes, it hurts when I toss it around the backyard with my uncle" makes more sense every day. At the rate He's going, "Move along, nothing to see HERE people!" won't be Leslie's any more either…
He has the time to go interview on some local show, but does not have the time to meet with Netanyahu. Yep really showing just how much his support for Israel is rock solid….
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/whi…
And now the US Consulate in Libya has been set on fire.
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/9/52597…
It appears they are also upset about the same film that the Egyptians are upset about.
Inconceivable !
Heard on radio today; Zero is declaring "NO REFUSAL to meet with Netanyahu, just scheduling conflicts" !
Yep, I still have that London Bridge taking up room in my backyard I`d like to sell Obama. I`m getting really tired of having to weed eat around it !
They really believe in "Never Letting a Good Crisis (Excuse) Go To Waste" !
LOL..I bet Obama also has said things like "no I paid you. Honestly, the check is in the mail."
Ppfffffft …. Zero thinks the honor of his presence is reward / payment enough ! He ate your pizza and endured your bear hug after all !
Never forget. Apparently America did. In 2008. It was brought home yesterday when we were attacked again.
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An attack today would leave us no less crippled financially as all major exchanges STILL physically reside in NYC. Along with our major banking concerns. The same town that brought us the Subprime Crisis, MF Global, AIG, Bear Stearns and countless other meltdowns. ??????
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