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Couple this with an exodus of people from the medical profession along with the millions who will lose their job-based coverage who will be subsequently unable to see the “government” doctor (due to shortages, rationings, poor training and simple unavailabilities as you’ll read below), and the odds are that Obamacare will usher in an era of fewer people getting proper health care than there were before the law was passed.

From the LA Times:

As the state moves to expand healthcare coverage to millions of Californians under President Obama’s healthcare law, it faces a major obstacle: There aren’t enough doctors to treat a crush of newly insured patients.

Some lawmakers want to fill the gap by redefining who can provide healthcare.

They are working on proposals that would allow physician assistants to treat more patients and nurse practitioners to set up independent practices. Pharmacists and optometrists could act as primary care providers, diagnosing and managing some chronic illnesses, such as diabetes and high-blood pressure.

“We’re going to be mandating that every single person in this state have insurance,” said state Sen. Ed Hernandez (D-West Covina), chairman of the Senate Health Committee and leader of the effort to expand professional boundaries. “What good is it if they are going to have a health insurance card but no access to doctors?”

Fortunately this is in California, where there is no shortage of doctors who “play one on TV,” which are allowed to become practicing physicians (see the “Marcus Welby Clause” of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, page 816, subsection 9B of section 4.3C)

The possible future of doctor visits, thanks to Obamacare (language warning):

(h/t Michelle Malkin)

Comments

45 Responses to “California Faces Obamacare-Induced Doctor Shortage; May ‘Redefine’ Who Can Provide Healthcare”

  1. Dexter_Alarius on February 11th, 2013 4:42 pm

    I'd comment about this, but I'm late for an appointment at the medical hobby shop.

  2. Marshall_Will on February 11th, 2013 5:56 pm

    Doing your own oil change are we? Hopefully there won't be too much a wait to get on the lift.

    Yeah and you can tell those MSNBC hacks trying to stick it to MM don't know jack about her, O'Care or colonoscopies for that matter! Us older guys can tell you, they're no JOKE. You will NOT be having a good time. Have we really become so insensitive about something that; 'personal' it's now used as some sort of generic punch line?

    Great way to kick off a serious discussion huh?

  3. SignPainterGuy on February 11th, 2013 6:38 pm

    I just got off the phone with a guy who had spoken at some length with a Dr who LOVES ObamaScare and who thinks it will be great when everyone will have insurance. He thinks there will be plenty of health professionals to go around; that any shortage of Drs will not be because of them quitting from overloads of paperwprk or fear of being sued or the costs of mal-practice insurance, but , again IF there is a shortage, it will be because of the debt-load after med. school. Aah, is THAT all ?

  4. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 6:44 pm

    Ah they should just use Obama Math to solve their debt load problem. According to dear leader we have just about reached the nations debt reduction goals.

  5. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 6:48 pm

    Reminds me of that movie from the 80's "Moving Violations" One of the characters is a hypochondriac and another is known as "The Dr" (he owns a maintenance shop. The hypochondriac asks the Dr. for some adivce as she is feeling sluggish in the mornings. He tells her to drink 3 quarts of oil that run full speed on the highway for ten miles and that should clear up the problem. The next morning she drinks 3 quarts of vegetable oil and goes jogging on the freeway cussing up a storm the entire time.

  6. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 6:49 pm

    Seeing that this IS California, how long will it be till they have illegals working as doctors seeing that in California it is no longer a job that American's will do?

  7. SignPainterGuy on February 11th, 2013 6:56 pm

    Just a wee bit of re-ed should do the trick; work in a gov. facility for 10 yrs and their school debt will be erased. Yeah, that`s the ticket. By then, there will probably be Drs` labor unions, so retirement bennies will be in place for when they hit 45. MMmmmmm, the GOOD Life !

  8. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 7:37 pm

    In other Obamacare news…..Hot Air has Jason Mattera confronting "Baghdad" Jim McDermott over the promise that health care premiums would go down under Obamacare….
    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/11/video-say-w

  9. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 8:01 pm

    Here is some more health care and budget news. Right now DoD is looking at using furloughs of 22 days of DoD Civilians to cut $1.9 billion for the remainder of the fiscal year. While this is going on they are extending benefits to same sex couples, which is going to cost the DoD quite a bit of the savings from the furloughs. Not to mention there is some serious issues that I see in just how they plan on instituting this change. For example, I can see how wrought with fraud this is going to be:

    To offer the new benefits to partners, DOD will ask gay and lesbian service members to sign a “Declaration of Domestic Partnership” in which they will attest that they are in a committed relationship, and intend to remain so indefinitely, and that neither is legally married, according to OutServe-SLDN.
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/11/169270

  10. Marshall_Will on February 11th, 2013 8:34 pm

    Grea….t, 12 mos. worth of Bills and 11 mos. worth of income. What could possibly go wrong!? Now the rank & file can have a "committed relationship" w/ the poor house.

  11. Marshall_Will on February 11th, 2013 8:37 pm

    SPG,

    How could anyone that dumb pass the medical boards? Just incredible. I get Peggy the Moocher not getting the math but an MD..? Wow…

  12. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 8:47 pm

    Question: How do you know when a Dem Sen is about to fall from grace?

    Answer: When the NYT runs a story about the Sen's shaddy business deals and identifies the Sen as a Dem.

    "The relationship between Dr. Melgen and the New Jersey senator has drawn scrutiny in recent weeks as Mr. Menendez, a Democrat, has taken over the chairmanship of the powerful Foreign Relations Committee."
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/us/politics/men

  13. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 8:53 pm

    The funny thing is I am already hearing alot of people here at the base bemoaning this as "not fair that their check is going to suffer, so a bunch of gays can get some extra bennies" and they wish they didn't vote for Obama a second time.

    The funny thing is they would probably be mad if they found out my department is not affected by the furloughs. The reason this is, is though I am a federal employee I do not get paid via tax $'s. We get paid through our work in billing private insurance. We bring in enough money every year to pay for our staff, supplies, etc and still supplement the hospital's budget by about $7 million a year.

  14. Marshall_Will on February 11th, 2013 9:01 pm

    TS,

    Our eldest daughter's gov. position was like that. The Engineer Certification Board was wholly funded by all the applicants that put in for the various licenses *required* to perform eng. work here in the state.

    She's no longer there but judging from the dillr@ds she said worked there, likely Obama repeat customers as well. Lots of single moms/gay dudes. They didn't understand funding either… Like your dept. they ran annual surpluses too.

  15. SignPainterGuy on February 11th, 2013 9:04 pm

    I certainly can`t explain it, but I` ve known people who were so smart (book smart) that they were stoopid; didn`t have sense enough to come in out of the rain ! Bet you have too !

  16. Marshall_Will on February 11th, 2013 9:08 pm

    Yet still managed to, gloss over the bevy of Hot & Cold running "new talent" spike heeling their way in/out of their not so little love nest…

    Yeah when an aide says "It's absurd to suggest..!?" it's pretty much over. Later scumbag.

  17. SignPainterGuy on February 11th, 2013 9:09 pm

    Let`s hope then that no one in the fed. board of ed. hears about you (your facility); they`ll want to rob you to pay for new ed. programs.

  18. SignPainterGuy on February 11th, 2013 9:11 pm

    Yep, that`d be the kiss of death fer sure !

    Another hint is when the pres. announces nationally that he has complete confidence in Mr ***** ! He`s about to be canned !

  19. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 9:45 pm

    They may want to, but it would be a political hand grenade that they would never touch. The majority of our surplus goes to the military's wounded warrior project (building the warrior transition battalion barracks, prosthetics, R&D on new prosthetics, etc). To try to steal from the wounded vets would be signing your own one way ticket into political oblivion.

  20. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 9:47 pm

    Of course they don't mind throwing Menedez under the bus for three reasons. They can claim they are fighting the "war on women" even when it comes to one of their own, they can claim impartiality and they know that it is Chris Christie that gets to choose his replacement. Nothing but gains for them politically.

  21. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 9:51 pm

    What pisses them off more is when you point out that by using a private sector model to fund the department you not only save tax payers money, but end up with a surplus vs the departments facing a furlough due to relying solely on suckling from the teat of the taxpayer.

    They hate it when Conservatism works.

  22. Truesoldier__ on February 11th, 2013 9:59 pm

    Also worth noting. Over the next 3 days the Senate, the House and then a jont session will be having hearings over the expected effects of the sequestration cuts on the military. I think even the Dem's are starting to jump onboard with figuring a way out of the DoD cuts as they are going to be beyond crazy.

    They have already postponed the sailing of one Aircraft carrier group that was scheduled to head out the ME this month and if the cuts go through they will keep a second group moored at their base. The Air Force is looking to stop 24/7 monitoring of radar and the Army is cutting back their training to the point of not being mission ready (and that is just the cuts listed in the press). I'll bet Iran, China, NoKo and the Russians are just loving it.

  23. Pasadena Phil on February 11th, 2013 10:31 pm

    I get my healthcare from Suture Self. The service is very polite and efficient.

  24. SignPainterGuy on February 11th, 2013 10:53 pm

    The first lesson in Gubmit 101 must be, "CYA" ! Lesson 2, "Blame / Point the Finger" ! Lesson 3, "Under-Bus Tossing" !

  25. Marshall_Will on February 11th, 2013 11:02 pm

    A SECOND carrier group!? Sheesh, sounds like post-cold war Russia. Whole FLEETS rotting at anchor b/c they didn't even have the money for paint…

  26. Marshall_Will on February 11th, 2013 11:06 pm

    Nice suit. Make that your SELF?

    We're almost there. Wife's employer ( med. tech. company that btw owned their OWN insurance co. for years… ) has done nothing but jack our rates and I'm going back to the 90's.

    Some of MM's sharper posters noted that for the most part, this was only ever intended to be exactly that; health 'insurance'. Not a health PLAN? It's incredible how much some are willing to fork over month after month just so they can brag about the low co-pays…

  27. Marshall_Will on February 11th, 2013 11:08 pm

    Well, they circled the wagons for as long as was tenable but he was small potatoes anyway. Now he's free to have that pimping good time 24/7!

  28. SignPainterGuy on February 11th, 2013 11:17 pm

    Just curious, is it confusing using multiple mirrors keeping straight right n left, removing the knives in your back ? Or do you out-source the back-stab repair work ?

  29. Pasadena Phil on February 11th, 2013 11:24 pm

    It's not the scalpel work that is difficult but the stitching. I go cross-eyed after a couple of minutes.

  30. Pasadena Phil on February 11th, 2013 11:37 pm

    I'm an independent advisor and for a while, it was cheaper for me to have my own separate plan than it was to be part of the group plan at Smith Barney. But starting in 2007-8, they just started ramping up their rates each quarter sometimes exceeding 25% per ramp. It got so expensive I tried to maximize the co-pay and amount I have to pay before filing claims but that went nowhere.

    I'm never sick, have no medical conditions and have never been on any continuing medication. I don't even wear glasses. I had a complete physical last year and came through with flying colors.

    All I want is to be covered for big events likes getting hit by a bus but they just price us healthy people right out of their plans. I am now going commando and have discovered that it is cheaper for me to pay out of my pocket for any medical care (annual physical) . Doctors and hospitals will give you a very big discount if you pay for it yourself because of the aggravation and delay of being reimbursed by the insurance companies.or government. THAT is a major target of ObamaCare, we healthy people who pay our own way are highly desired by doctors and hospitals. In, pay, out.

    As it is, I will be 60 this year and would rather pay the tax penalty for not being covered until I qualify for Medi-Care when I expect I still won't need much healthcare and can still pay for it cheaper out of my own pocket than pay the co-pay. We'll see. Things are going to change drastically very soon.

    It's just going to end up being an explosive source of new taxes as the government inevitably slashes spending for inability to deliver the services leading eventually to the death panels. I have some serious thinking to do. Luckily, I can take my job with me anywhere. I'm seriously thinking of moving to Scottsdale AZ in a few years.

  31. SignPainterGuy on February 12th, 2013 12:14 am

    Same here on the Pay As You Go. Drs, clincs, hospitals WILL continue to appreciate the cash on the barrel head customers until the gummit makes it illegal and actually penalizes someone to make an example out of them. Then it`ll get tuff on us "never sickers / pay our own wayers".

  32. SignPainterGuy on February 12th, 2013 12:16 am

    Reading glasses and switch to cross stitch and macrame for that extra style pointage ! ;-)

  33. ChapBix on February 12th, 2013 12:17 am

    Isn't there an abundance of witch doctors in third world countries? Perhaps we shall encounter one on our next visit to the government doctor.

  34. ChapBix on February 12th, 2013 12:20 am

    Book smart, street dumb.

  35. ChapBix on February 12th, 2013 12:26 am

    Lol!

  36. SignPainterGuy on February 12th, 2013 12:31 am

    Ppffffft, Street, Home, Car, Relationship, you name it – dumb !

  37. Marshall_Will on February 12th, 2013 12:51 am

    Only 54 ( well in a couple of weeks ) and feel fairly the same as you gents. I've been SO fortunate and only need glasses for night driving and after working w/ a younger more open eared eye doc, might not even need that!

    Never a fan of self-inflicted injuries but picked one up at our last [single] bandmate's bachelor party. Seems sometime after midnight a rumble broke out and I think I cracked a few ribs. Yeah, I know, brilliant right?

    But it only buttresses the case: There isn't JACK they can do for that kind of stupidity ANY way? Hurts when you cough, laugh etc. but shy of a full body cast, you Suck.It.Up. Gotta' tell ya' man, haven't had fun like that for a long time. It was worth it and I won't be clogging up their system getting x-rays. Which should probably be cranial!

  38. SignPainterGuy on February 12th, 2013 1:16 am

    With this admin`s and the left`s hatred of all things Jewish, Christian and conservative, a witch dr is a definite possibility !

  39. Truesoldier__ on February 12th, 2013 1:38 pm

    Not to mention all the catch 22's within Obamacare. For example, As an insurance company you have to spend more money on healthcare costs than on administrative costs or you are forced to give the customer refunds. With Obamacare comes a ton of new regulations that the insurance biz must comply with which will take many more man hours to comply with, thus raising your administrative costs more. So to ensure they can still make the same profit as before, insurance companies are drastically raising their premiums knowing full well that they will have to refund a certain portion of the the premium as the administrative costs far exceed the actual healthcare costs.

    To make things worse, certain states are getting hit with higher premium hikes than others due solely to the fact that some states (like WA ST) the insurance companies have to get permission from the states insurance commissioner to raise rates where other states (like CA) they do not. So while WA ST isn't seeing as high of a hike California is seeing a massive hike (to pay for those states where they cannot raise rates without permission).

  40. Truesoldier__ on February 12th, 2013 1:45 pm

    I think a holistic healer would be closer in tune with this admin.

  41. jeffythequick on February 12th, 2013 2:09 pm

    Phil,

    I don't see that plan as approved by Sebelelius and her klan of doctor approvers. Be prepared to explain yourself to the panel, and also be ready to prove your innocence. Otherwise, stiff penalties and automatic enrollment in a health care provider that will umm… fit your needs.

    We're here from the government, and we're here to help. Have a nice day.

  42. Marshall_Will on February 12th, 2013 2:30 pm

    TS,

    And if that's not complicated enough..? Oregon has essentially a "Wyden Pre-exemption" in that OR had basically an indigent care plan in place *before* ObamaCare.

    What that all means is clear as mud but suffice to say, those of us in the pvt. sector are bracing for ever more onerous implementation.

    The upshot to ALL of this, and I see it everyday; lots of previously health conscious people are throwing in the towel on the whole lifestyle choices thing. Things have gotten so chaotic ( see Phil's post above ) no one knows where they STAND? If G.I's [on] Active Duty don't know what their benefits will look like in a year, a month, next week..? Now people figure, whatever happens HAPPENS?

  43. Marshall_Will on February 12th, 2013 2:43 pm

    Case in point.., and of course I can't prove a LICK of it but; I credit the good health I've enjoyed ( thus far? ) to being forced to compete w/ younger guys on a daily basis!

    True, of (5) children it's possible I just drew the lucky straw but I've always felt taking your energy level down to the most lethargic person in the office/shop etc. was a major mistake. Workers that mark off each task they view as 'menial' on a calendar only cheat themselves.

    We don't have to "pitch in" for -every- office makeover, recycling run and trash dump but saying "I have seniority, let these young guys jump thru the hoops!" cements a sedentary lifestyle at home AND work.

    We can't do much about the things were genetically pre-disposed to but our ancestors didn't have the luxury of bad backs, joint pain, gout etc.

  44. Anxiety Attacks on August 25th, 2013 6:08 pm

    The US will always have a shortage of doctors. The population is aging, medical school is prohibitively expensive and various conditions regarding immigration and media hysteria over vaccinations tend to create epidemics of easily treatable diseases you don't see in other first world nations.

  45. kkdfsa on November 23rd, 2013 3:42 pm

    Here’s Team Obama’s ridiculous tactic to deflect blame: Let’s assume you own a grocery store in Tokyo. One day Godzilla comes along and stomps it. You go to the press and blame the King of Monsters..
    Dr. Driscoll: Casper Neck Pain

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