President Obama has in the past couple of years praised China’s “vastly superior” infrastructure and has said the U.S. needs to go “all-in on clean energy” just like the Chi-coms. How’s that working out for China?

When China’s environment ministry told attorney Dong Zhengwei he couldn’t have access to two-year old data about soil pollution because it was a “state secret”, it added to mounting public outrage over the worsening environment.

Microbloggers, state media and even delegates to this week’s session of the National People’s Congress, the largely rubber-stamp parliament, were already critical of the government for poor air and water quality. Now they are also expressing disquiet over the scarcity of information about the environment available to them.

For incoming President Xi Jinping, who formally takes over towards the end of the parliament session, the two-pronged challenge is to find the balance between growth and further degradation of the environment, and also to decide whether to level with citizens just how bad the problem is.

Doug Ross has some photos taken in this “clean energy” wonderland Obama has spoken of and wants to emulate here. Obama’s certainly getting there when it comes to Chinese government-style transparency — I’ll give him that much.

By the way, Obama saying China has gone “all-in” on clean energy is a funnier joke than Joe Biden:

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32 Responses to “China Choking in Smog; Obama Still Trying to Make the US Just Like Them”

  1. SignPainterGuy on March 10th, 2013 7:08 pm

    Barry & Co. have certainly taken us in the general direction of China, but he`s a piker and they are pros at the lies, lack of transparency, limiting or out right forbidding of personal rights, liberties and growth / advancement opportunities.

  2. Truesoldier__ on March 11th, 2013 10:56 am

    And dear leader knows it. Remeber when the NYT had this statement in one of their articles:

    “Mr. Obama has told people that it would be so much easier to be the president of China. As one official put it, ‘No one is scrutinizing Hu Jintao’s words in Tahrir Square.’”
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/president-chi

  3. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 12:31 pm

    He would love to be a dictator, supreme leader, king; any position that gives him unquestioned, unlimited power, the power of executive order !

    He actually did make the statement. According to Krugman if it isn`t in the Times, it didn`t happen, so there it is !

  4. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 1:11 pm

    The sheer thought of millions upon millions of nameless, faceless [ identically attired ] former Americans cramming re-purposed former freeways with bicycles, ox carts and flip flops gives him leg thrills.

    Someday my dream is for my daughters to have their OWN vendor cart clutching a paper dust mask to their faces with one hand and swatting FLIES w/ the other…

  5. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 1:26 pm

    I can just see it; one arm waving and a grey bearded face out the rear passenger window yelling for the peasants to get out of the way while his limo driver blows the horn, inching their way through the throngs !

    As thrilling as the sight may be, they`re still in his way !

  6. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 1:38 pm

    With twin V-12 engines in The Beast and DHS armor-plated suburban assault vehicles performing Sweep & Clear, anyone not heeding the screech of the siren will be crushed "Beneath The Wheel".

  7. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 1:45 pm

    Great visuals ! Krugman AND Barry, like dogs with their heads out each side window (switching windows occasionally – ever drive behind a car full-o-dogs ?) !

    You have me at a "song reference" disadvantage. Good stuff ! Heh …

    Btw, it would have to be a "pusher – puller"; V-12s are wide !

  8. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 1:48 pm

    Take a look at these livestock animals ( 900 of them ) floating in the Shanghai River. They look like malformed, MUTANT creatures w/ badly chemically burned skins. I'm sure this happens i Iowa all the time!
    http://www.katu.com/news/weird/900-dead-pigs-foun

  9. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 1:52 pm

    O/T: check out Twitchy ! Mooch has #Ask FLOTUS going and people are skewering her !

  10. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 2:12 pm

    ICK ! They look like hippos ! No idea where they came from ? They`re "monitoring" water quality ? Have they considered "flooding" upriver as a cause ?

    When will Barry add this to the growing list of "Why China is better than the USA" ?

  11. Truesoldier__ on March 11th, 2013 2:14 pm

    Well if China is "all-in" on green energy with 70% of their power coming from coal, then I guess we can stop pushing so hard as we are ahead of the pack as we use far less coal for power at roughly 42%-44%.

  12. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 2:15 pm

    Oh, that was actually a literary ref. Herman Hesse wrote "Steppenwolf", Beneath The Wheel and several others all describing the de-humanizing and mindless militaristic build-up in pre-war Germany.

    When we openly wonder "how so many otherwise decent Germans could have allowed the genocide to have taken place!?" it's Hesse that perhaps gave us our best insight into their mindset.

    Oh and thanks for Twitchy up! Hilarious posts to FLOTUS. And she deserves every ONE of them!

  13. Truesoldier__ on March 11th, 2013 2:23 pm

    Take a look at this article and the pictures and it all makes sense why the mutant pigs exist…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2288377/C

  14. Truesoldier__ on March 11th, 2013 2:24 pm

    This has to be one of my favorite questions:

    Hi #AskFLOTUS Which of your 3 kids is the hardest to control? Sasha, Malia or Joe?

  15. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 2:45 pm

    I want to know why we don`t use more hydro-electric power !?! It`s completely non-polluting. I know, it dumps icy cold water downstream or warmer water if the intakes are high, near the surface, and may endanger snail darters n some muscles, but the maintenance costs are very low. The water is FREE !

    Here in the mountains, you lose a little forest land, but you get all these nice small lakes for recreation and the lakeshore properties are in high demand (usually).

    We have cleaned up coal burning exhaust so that the ash is all that remains. Storage is an issue if it breaks free, but containment can be done. We need someone to come up with a good use for it; add it to asphalt or concrete or something that will be sold by the train car loads.

  16. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 2:55 pm

    On the hydro-electric idea; a few weeks ago, Fontana Dam (highest east of the Big Muddy at over 400') released a bunch of water thru their two tunnels (from the surface of the lake) to lower the lake level in anticipation of heavy rains and snow melt. I saw it reported on TV news, but missed the chance to drive the 50ish miles to see it and get pix. It hadn`t been done to this degree in many years and with the freezing temps, ice formed on EVERYTHING around from the spray.

  17. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 2:56 pm

    If that algae gets any thicker, they'll be able to just 'walk' across the lake. Over 400 "cancer villages" ( will YOURS be next? )

    Whiney Liberal artists can start the crusade to stop this dumping scheme in China in 3… 2… Actually I'd like to dip a Stratocaster body in that cool iridescent green and be the envy of the neighborhood!

  18. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 2:59 pm

    That's why the avg. power bill in the Pac. NW was around $30 bucks since they put in the Bonneville Dam! Enter (1) enviro-nitwit lawsuit after another and all the compliance controls and fish gates and… try around $200 a mo. on avg.

    Actually I saw an old "Pelton wheel" rusting on the banks of the Williamson River in S. Oregon the other day. They were used to power the mills. Of course we can't be having any of that?

  19. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 3:08 pm

    I saw one below a municipal lake a couple weeks ago leaning against the river bank. Modernity leaves a lot of neat ol` junque behind in its wake !

  20. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 3:13 pm

    Wow, that`s amazing in a not so great way !

    If ever there was a place the enviro-ninnies could find a real purpose ! China would either dispose of them (like other dissidents) or wind up with clean air and water. Either way, we`d have them out of our hair !

  21. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 3:13 pm

    Can I assume "Joe" is O`Biden ?

  22. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 3:19 pm

    I had an odd-ball customer who sold alternative / survivalist energy sources / generators; water wheels, portable and fixed-mount fuel powered generators, wind mills…..

    Back in the `90s, only the FP gens were selling and even they weren`t flying out his doors !

  23. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 3:21 pm

    Although they're probably not 'titled' so bluntly, everyone from Acorn to Media Matters has to have some sort of designated "hyprocrisy manager" that dots i's to make sure Bono or Roger Waters throws a grand spectacle of a Concert For ____ and have it covered.

    On a comparative basis they could spend the rest of their LIVES chipping at Africa before they even got on China's case…

  24. Truesoldier__ on March 11th, 2013 3:31 pm

    Of course up here in WA ST the low information voters approved an initiative a few years back that said the majority of the states power had to be from "renewable energy". What the idiots did not realize is that the environinies had it listed in the intiative that hydro-electricity was not a form of renewable energy, so now our electirc bills have gone thorugh the roof as all the hydor-electricity is sold to other states that have not limited their choices.

  25. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 3:32 pm

    They usually "rot in place" as they're just too big to move to a museum or even have disassembled for scrap.

    But they now have much smaller, more advanced parallel units that stage up the rotary hydro-dynamics so even a steady trickle translates to higher than expected RPM outputs. Since our condo is on the river, I've suggested this for all our common area lighting.

    Even if it falters part of the year, the 9 or 10 mos. per year would translate to a real savings. I'm also a big fan of water catchment systems and you can calculate your 'harvest' very accurately by avg. rainfall X sq. footage of your roof ( collector ) area. This ain't rocket science… But like all Progressives, our locals are all TALK too, so another good idea dies on the vine.

  26. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 3:56 pm

    He was just ahead of his time ( like 'I' tend to be? ) Recall after Y2K the nickel ads were flooded w/ unused gen-sets for sale!

    Funny you'd bring up the 90's though? That's when I first became suspicious we'd see "necessarily skyrocketing" utility bills. Water, sewer, electric. Just across the board. I felt, as a financial planner, any 'retirement planning' that didn't take into account NecSky was wholly inadequate!

    Especially w/ Boomers flocking to the Sun Belt and 10 mos. a year of AC bills? Many have standards and lifestyle levels that don't include sweating once in awhile? When it comes to that, a lot of them really get their panties in a bind. And the women are no better…

  27. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 5:59 pm

    There are ways to keep the water flowing to keep the wheel(s) turning to generate small amounts of electricity; your outside lighting for instance. Who doesn`t like an old-ish world water feature ? There`s one in town here that is powered by the same water that used to run continuously in the sidewalk drinking fountain just above it. Only takes a trickle !

  28. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 6:08 pm

    He operated too near the edge on other people`s $ in too many questionable ventures. The junk he collected thru the years is now so old n rusted, it`s hardly worth anything as scrap, beyond recycling and can`t be buried. It`s a real eyesore.

  29. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 6:11 pm

    Lakes in my region are discharging water like crazy, staying up with rainfall, trying to keep the lake levels low enough to handle anticipated spring rains and snow melt (if we actually get much snow – we`ve had several snows that didn`t amount to much).

    How can the inviro-ninnies think water is NOT renewable ? Yes, that was rhetoricalish !!

  30. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 6:42 pm

    Yeah I can see going "bootstrap" for your first few ventures/years but even those of us w/ the most modest of beginnings need to throttle back on the leverage once we get our foot in the door.

    Between all the Pickin' & Pawnin' reality shows you find yourself constantly regretting ever having thrown ANYTHING away.., when the truth is, the storage, inventory and inflation costs are taken into account ( a lot of them are just breaking even! )

    I look for a number of re-manufacturing industries to pick back up. The longer Obama is in office, the easier it is for me to see appliance repair, tire re-treading etc. make a big 'comeback'.

    Yea…..!

  31. Marshall_Will on March 11th, 2013 6:44 pm

    Isn't that one of their most masterful CON jobs!? How'd our ancestors ever get BY? It's a wonder they didn't all die of thirst…

    Anyone else catching The Bible on History Ch? We've been watching and so far it seems pretty good. IMHO

  32. SignPainterGuy on March 11th, 2013 7:28 pm

    I am and I have enjoyed it ! They have skipped a few details, but I won`t knock them for it !

    NBCbs wouldn`t pick it up, but History CH did. I thought History Ch was owned by NBC !?

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