2008: Hope & Change!

2013: Not quite as bad as Dick Cheney:

President Barack Obama’s defense to Democratic senators complaining about how little his administration has told Congress about the legal justifications for his drone policy: Dick Cheney was worse.

That’s part of what two senators in the room recounted of Obama’s response when, near the outset of his closed-door session with the Senate Democratic conference on Tuesday, Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) confronted the president over the administration’s refusal for two years to show congressional intelligence committees Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel memos justifying the use of lethal force against American terror suspects abroad.
“This is not Dick Cheney we’re talking about here,” he said, according to Democratic senators who asked not to be named discussing the private meeting.

In actuality, our Nobel Peace Prize-winning buck passer-in-chief has authorized five times as many drone strikes as Bush/Cheney, according to Slate.


24 Responses to “President Obama on Drone Policy: I’m Not as Bad as Dick Cheney”

  1. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 2:31 pm

    “This is not Dick Cheney we’re talking about here,” Lol

    So…, what ARE we 'talking' [here]? That you're not, a 100% white guy? You're not from Wyoming? Never ran a successful company?

  2. Truesoldier__ on March 14th, 2013 2:48 pm

    Wouldn't know a good foreign or domestic policy if it hit square between the eyes….

  3. Truesoldier__ on March 14th, 2013 2:50 pm

    So it is ok for him to not be transparent cause he isn't the "Evil Darth Cheney"? Notice how the story doesn't appear that these dem senators pressed the issue? I guess the answer dear leader gave them was good enough for them.

  4. Truesoldier__ on March 14th, 2013 2:54 pm

    Now compare dear leaders meeting with dems to Ted Cruz at CPAC (no real comparison I know):

    Walking back and forth across the stage in his patented style, Cruz delivered body blows to both establishment Republicans and to the Obama administration. Urging conservatives to “stand for principle,” he said, “I think 2014 has the potential to be a very, very good year, but the number one way we can screw it up is if we fail to stand on principle.”

    As an example of standing on principle, he mentioned Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) filibustering over President Obama’s drone policy. “We have an administration that seems to recognize no limits on its power,” said Cruz. Paul pointed that out with his filibuster – and more than that, Cruz pointed out, he made the constitution the issue. Holder, Cruz continued, seemed confused by all the talk about constitutionalism versus what was “appropriate” when it came to drone use, as though he expected Americans to simply trust the administration without reference to the appropriate scope of presidential power. But, said Cruz, “the entire premise of the US constitution is that we don’t trust you.”

  5. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 3:27 pm


    Yeah, THAT'S the ticket!

  6. jeffythequick on March 14th, 2013 3:32 pm

    The problem with tyranny is this:

    Your possessions, liberty, and life are at the whim of a person. So, if you have a benevolent dictator, like parents, all is well, but if you have a non-benevolent dictator, like, well… Stalin, then, you better hope you're in the right group. Of course, with Stalin, sometimes the right group wasn't so right after a while.

  7. jeffythequick on March 14th, 2013 3:40 pm

    Off Topic…

    I haven't heard from Jeff Merkley-D-OR for 4 years, and now he's got me on his regular mailing list.

    I smell someone coming up for re-election. The bad thing is that he got rid of Gordon Smith, but Smith deserved to lose, as he was running ads claiming how well he worked with Barack Obama in 2008. Come on, Oregon, send a real conservative to Washington.

    OK, maybe the fraud by mail will work in our favor this time, and Multnomah, Washington, and Clackamas Counties can all stay home…err… go wait at the polling stations.

  8. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 3:40 pm

    Nor SHOULD we. We got to get a really cool nickname for TC!

    OT but striking nonetheless, a chart from The Blaze showing Cali Exodus. Gotta' make room for all those Chanchor babies you know!?

  9. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 3:59 pm

    Yes, because sometimes democracy can be, you know, so 'inconvenient"!

    JM, "The candidate from NOWHERE!" Oddly, when at MM's urging I reached out to his office to get his position on the Law Of The Sea Treaty ( which he assured he had NO designs to change! ) suddenly his email activity has picked up too.

    Here's what's WEIRD. If Dim's can get Kitzhaber re-installed as Gov., why couldn't GS run again? I'm mortified by how convincing a 'conservative' these Dim's can play when divorcing themselves from their DC handlers. Hey. it's only for a DAY? What's alarming is, as a PCP we haven't even HEARD anything about who'll run against a perfectly BEATABLE Kurt Schrader?

  10. Truesoldier__ on March 14th, 2013 4:06 pm

    Yet in the meantime the state party will call you up at dinner time to beg for money. I called the office of the state chairman today to complain about the call. What I did not like about it was the tactic they were using. They called up asking me to donate the same amount I donated last year, only problem with that is that I did not donate at all last year and they darn well know it. My district has a lot of elderly people and I fear that they were hoping to get some "forgetful" people on the phone that could not remember how much (or little) they gave and just agree to the amount as that is what they were told they gave last year.

  11. Truesoldier__ on March 14th, 2013 4:08 pm

    O/T…but hell froze over today…Pelosi actually said something that is true:

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Republicans are “at war” with their “own government” by trying to “shrink” its role in society.

  12. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 4:41 pm

    Heh..? What's that you SAY sonny? I'm a little hard uh hearin'. Let me get my checkbook and…

    Utterly contemptable! THIS is how pathetic they've become. Wow. How's your lumbago btw?

  13. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 4:42 pm

    Here's the Merkley letter Jeffy ref'd to; JUST came in my inbox!

    Economic Choices For America

    In the coming weeks, as a member of both the Appropriations Committee and Budget Committee, Jeff will be intimately involved in writing the budget and deciding how we dedicate our resources as a nation. With these major decisions ahead, we face a choice as to what kind of nation and economy we want. Do we want one that if you work hard and play by the rules, you can still achieve the American Dream? Or will we allow working families to continue falling further behind, even while they work harder? Do we want to fuel innovation and good jobs that create opportunities for middle class Oregonians, or cut off key investments in education, infrastructure, and science while our competitors overseas win the future? Will we protect the earned benefits of our seniors, and maintain the modest safety net of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, or ask seniors to pay more out of pocket for less?

    For too many years—especially since the recession, but even before—the economy has been failing too many Oregonians. Jeff has been fighting for a new vision for the economy, one built around the middle class. That's why he voted against the law that created the sequester. It's dumb economics that will cost jobs now, make life tougher for working families, and choke off investments in the critical building blocks for future economic growth.

  14. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 4:44 pm

    Did 'I' forget to mention those evil banks?

    Prosecution–Free Zone for Large Banks in America?

    Last Thursday, the Senate Banking Committee held a hearing on the lack of criminal prosecutions of global bank HSBC. HSBC, which helped drug cartels launder nearly a billion dollars, faced a fine of only one percent of profits over the ten year period they broke the law. During the hearing, Jeff asked the regulators a simple question, "Do we have a situation where banks have become so large that in the words of Attorney General Holder, if you prosecute them, 'it will have a negative impact on the economy and the financial system at large' and does that mean, essentially that we have a prosecution-free zone for large banks in America?" Click HERE to watch

    At the end of the hearing, Senator Merkley ended with a final note that a fine of one percent of profits doesn't act as a deterrent, but sounds more like the cost of doing a very profitable business. Click HERE to watch

    After the news of the settlement was reached last year, Jeff wrote a letter to Attorney General Holder saying it deeply offends the public's sense of justice.

  15. Truesoldier__ on March 14th, 2013 5:16 pm

    O/T…But Ted Cruz is on fire!

  16. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 5:43 pm

    Gee Di, what an ODD place to start mounting your counter-offensive? "I'm not a 6th grader"? At ANY grade in Cali are your students proven proficient at reading and the few that ( thanks to your progressive policies ) are remotely aware of what the POA is let alone the Constitution?

    So you're off to a rocky start. Oh and did you catch Dick Durbin's "NONE of these 'Rights' are absolutes"? Well, A-HOLE if there's nothing 'absolute' about them, then I guess they're not 'rights'?

    See that's the whole framing of the discussion Prog-clowns want as the starting point. It's the same shameless tactics teen boys use to get girl's bra's off. Oh and way to keep the faux emotion over Sandy Hook out of the discussion! +1

  17. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 6:12 pm

    Interesting read on a different angle of the Green Boondoggle:

    Out of state doggle broke wind farm into (3) sep. entities to get not $10 mil. but $30 MIL. in tax subsides! Doug probably never saw that coming huh?

  18. Truesoldier__ on March 14th, 2013 8:00 pm

    This is what I love about TC, he can make a choerent argument that leaves the left 's 6th grade Michael Moore logic (yes I stole that from the SecDef on 24—-I believe it was season 2) in taterts.

    To top it off TC is a lawyer (constitutional one at that) who has successfully argued cases in front of the Supreme Court (To include a case against the Bush Admin when he believed they had overstepped their authority).

    Now all we need to do is get another 50+ Senators in the mold of TC, Rand Paul and Mike Lee.

  19. Granny55 on March 14th, 2013 8:04 pm

    O/T but here is what the Obama economics has done in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Those Yoopers are tough!

  20. Truesoldier__ on March 14th, 2013 8:08 pm

    Sounds alot like what is going on here at work. There is a big push to get the medical and pharmacy bills out the door to try to bring money back into the hospital to offset the sequestration cuts. Management has devised a "brilliant plan" to motivate people by placing a daily quota of how many bills we need to get out the door each day. What many of the workers have realized it is far easier to reach the number by billing only the pharmacy bills as the electronic billing system counts each prescription as a seperate bill even when they are on the same bill.

    For example, if you have 3 scripts you get filled at the same time it will show up on a single bill sent to the insurance company, but the billing software actually counts each line of the bill as a seperate bill so you would have 3 bills instead of 1.

  21. Marshall_Will on March 14th, 2013 8:19 pm

    OMG funny! Well, he did it?

    I'm tapping my toe "cottaging" for everyone to meet me on the Larry Craig thread. Hint hint…

  22. Granny55 on March 14th, 2013 8:23 pm


  23. Granny55 on March 14th, 2013 8:23 pm

    Only kidding tho….

  24. SignPainterGuy on March 14th, 2013 8:35 pm

    There`s just nuthin` like determination, or, as they say, "Where there`s a will, there`s a way"!

    I`m just surprised a cop didn`t charge him for not wearing a helmet or lack of a tail light or something else made up !

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