Guest post written by Joyanna Adams
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Yesterday, Laura Ingram and Bill O’Reilly got into a big argument on the O’Reilly show. It was all about Bill’s use of the words, ‘Bible Thumper.’ Today on the radio, Rush Limbaugh came out and agreed with Bill, (after not agreeing with him) as did Charles Krauthammer the day before.

The men stated that they were all on Bill’s side. Where’s an intelligent feminist when you need them? (We need a Power joke here…and a rim shot. Mr. Powers is about to SINK the second Titanic so we should just count the days till he’s back and pray for me until that day: )

Anyway, that’s three against one. While Bill’s argument was that it was okay to say the words ‘Bible Thumper’ when describing the nutcases on the right, (Bill’s words not mine) has some merit, the words ‘Bible Thumper’ hits a low blow to the many religious people in the country. So… tell me, would Bill O’Reilly use the “N”word just as freely to make a point? Both are derogatory descriptions.

After all, wouldn’t a Catholic be considered a ‘Bible Thumper’? Don’t they go by the Bible? Isn’t Bill O’Reilly a proud Catholic? Isn’t Bill O’Reilly a ‘Bible Thumper’ then?

I don’t get it.

If you watch the film, Bill is furious…and you get from his own body language (Yes Bill, watch your own body language) that this goes beyond someone challanging his choice of words. It makes you think that he really does beleive that ‘Bible Thumpers’ have not come up with a good enough reason to argue against gay marriage, and he’s really angry about that. Just saying it’s in the Bible isn’t enough for Bill.

Well Bill.. instead of attacking religious people, why not give them some good NON-BIBLE THUMPING arguments yourself! (Did he hear me?)

Let’s say the arugment was about race. And Bill had said that “n#gg#$s” had to get a better argument than just the claim that all whites are racists.

“Bible Thumper”, and “n*gg*#” are nouns. They describe people. Yet, white people are not allowed to say the ‘N’ word, but everyone can say Bible Thumper, Red Neck, BB Brain…illegal immigrant…..

Wait! You’re not suppose to say illegal immigrant anymore. The illegals might get offended.  How about we stop saying, “The Honorable Hillary Clinton?”

What has happened to free speech? If I want to say that I know a bible thumping n#gg&g, can I pretend I’m Bill O’Reilly?

What if Bill had said…iiligals immigrants need to strengthen their argument about why they should get free health care? According the the associated Press, millions of illegals are offended when you call them that.

You can pick and choose what nasty words you call anyone, Bill—but, if you are going to use a word that people get offended by, why not also admit that you would mind it if they came to your house and thumped on their Bibles.

Or…is it the Bible that you’re having a problem with?

So…Okay guys (Take it away Granny 55)  What do YOU think? Do you side with Bill, or Laura? Who’s right? Or should we be really asking if the country was founded by Christians or Gays?

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Guest post written by Joyanna Adams

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39 Responses to “Doublespeaking Bible Thumpers and Illegal Immigrants”

  1. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 12:17 pm

    O'Reilly is nothing more than a raitings whore and probably doesn't care one way or the other about the subject. . All this is doing is giving him what him the attention he so desires and does nothing to further either sides position. It is a tactic straight from Alinski. Spend all your time arguing over nothing as a way to avoid a substantive debate.

    With that being said, Ingram is right. We need to stand up for our principles and stop letting these morons in the media define us with sterotypes.

    As for the AP and no longer using "illegal immigrant" I'm fine with that, just as long as we go with Jay Leno's idea…..call them "Undocumented Democrats".

  2. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 12:28 pm

    O/T…just saw this and it is crazy. One Maryland county is planning of charging a "rain tax" to pay for stormwater restoration programs.
    http://truesoldier96.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/mar

  3. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 12:31 pm

    Ditto !

    Add "Illegal Migrant" or Illegal Alien" or "Felon".

  4. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 12:36 pm

    As for Shrillary, she has done precisely ONE thing I can consider honorable; she stuck with her cheating husband. She "honored" her wedding vows in spite of the fact that "a cheating / adulterous spouse" was the one excuse Jesus allowed for divorce.

  5. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 12:54 pm

    Asheville,NC already does and has for a few years. It is calculated by the area of impermeable surfaces on your property, ie; roof tops, paved (asphalt, concrete) driveways and parking lots, etc., any surface that does not absorb water, but sheds it toward and into city streets and storm drains.

    City residents pitched a fit, but the dem controlled city council saw it as irresistible.

    BTW, that same city council has announced a $6 M budget gap and more if the R state leg. follows thru with plans. They have taken the same "Momument Approach" to cost cutting as the fed. has done w/ the sequester cuts; cutting the popular programs, things we like and see and want, things that hurt / are painful. One possible cut is the local Nature Center, a very popular zoo and nature exhibit. It was quickly announced by the mgt. of the Nat. Ctr. that they have their own money from admission fees to pay their own way, so should not be on the list. Deaf ears it fell on ! It`s all optics to blame stingy republicans.

  6. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 1:01 pm

    I will say this, here in WA ST the new Dme/Rep coalition in the State Senate is actually being (for the most part) fiscally Conservative. It looks like they will balance the budget without raising taxes by cutting wasteful programs. They even managed to scrounge up $1 billion in new education spending (mandated by the State Supreme Court which is a whole other issue). It pisses off the Dem's in the house as it shows that it can be done in a responsible way.

  7. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 1:02 pm

    True, but I am sure it is more about power than it is about wedding vows.

  8. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 1:19 pm

    Oh, no doubt about it, "Honor" had little if anything to do with it. It was all optics and prep for her future power and position.

  9. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 1:27 pm

    Oh no ! Next thing you`ll tell me is cats and dogs are sleeping together ! ;-)

    Wasn`t it Reagan who said, "We don`t have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem !" ? With all this taxing and fee charging there`s plenty of money, it`s just going in the wrong places, twice and thrice !

  10. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 1:45 pm

    Reagan had such a simplistic way of explaining things. He never got "cute" with his wording and that is why he was so effective. He told it how it was, without mincing words. I wish more of the GOP would come to realize that the key to a great speech is to keep it simple, stupid.

  11. Marshall_Will on April 4th, 2013 1:52 pm

    Probably losing market share to GB by the DAY. I'm reasonably sure MM and other new media savvy operators have been providing regular feedback over how Fox is losing their core demographic and THIS is how O'Reilly and their producers decided to 'deal' w/ it.

    "It is a tactic straight from Alinski. Spend all your time arguing over nothing…"

  12. Marshall_Will on April 4th, 2013 1:57 pm

    "It was quickly announced by the mgt. of the Nat. Ctr. that they have their own money from admission fees to pay their own way, so should not be on the list."

    Too entrepreneurial. They might as well be greedy pvt. sector robber barons! Sheesh, anyone knows the way to run a gov. "dept'. and that's into the GROUND. ( That way you can plead for emergency bridge funding to keep you afloat until the next round of tax hikes? )

    Being an efficient, SOLVENT agency will only make you a target.

  13. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 2:05 pm

    The Big Rs apparently hated RR; he was conservative. They`d rather pretend to be cons while trying (but failing) to "sound" conservative. They, like the Ds, have plenty to hide (their progressivism) and resort to "cute" words.

  14. jeffythequick on April 4th, 2013 2:09 pm

    She would have been as honorable either way.
    (how's that for a back-handed compliment?)

  15. jeffythequick on April 4th, 2013 2:10 pm

    In Bill O'Reilly's world view, are Mitt Romney and I Book of Mormon thumpers?

  16. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 2:12 pm

    It`s as though you`ve lived here !?

    The city also has on its list, closing one of the fire depts., ending weekend transit bus service, closing a few parks.

    At yesterday`s City Council Townhall meeting, impassioned pleas were heard for hours, begging for continuation of their beloved programs. Several residents claimed they`d moved here because of the parks and recreation opportunities.

    I say, "No you didn`t ! You settled for Av`l because it`s too far to the REAL San Fran Sicko !"

  17. Marshall_Will on April 4th, 2013 2:17 pm

    That was rhetorical right?

    In viewing the vid what I saw primarily was a frantic host, sinking in the ratings desperately trying to reclaim his following. And if he had throw a classy gal like Laura under the bus to create some media hype?

    If that's the way she's going to be treated going forward, like Michelle, I hope she continues to distance herself from him. After the last few weeks of calling Rep's ( of both parties ) dealing w/ insurance types and getting talked OVER before I've even stated my case, it's not hard to empathize w/ LI's frustration.

  18. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 2:28 pm

    Good question? Better yet, Would O'Reilly call a Muslim a Koran Thumper?

  19. Marshall_Will on April 4th, 2013 2:49 pm

    "begging for continuation of their beloved programs"

    Most of the 'parks' we see aren't being kept up by Junior Brown's "Little Town Square" standard? Weeds, bent over grass, something 'gets' broken, it STAYS broken! So be it.

    Right, they weren't willing to swap coasts so they just moved it.

  20. jeffythequick on April 4th, 2013 3:07 pm

    That's not true! Karl Rove said so!

    Funny… the two greatest presidents of the 20th century were RR and CC. Both plain spoken, and conservative.

    In fact, I'd love to knock Teddy Roosevelt off of Mt. Rushmore, and put Coolidge or Reagan. Or both.

  21. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 3:07 pm

    Slap !!

    Or, as DIS-honorable either way. It makes no diff. !

  22. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 3:08 pm

    No, that would insult his Saudi bosses !

  23. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 3:13 pm

    Just heard the report again on radio; they also are considering closing swimming pools, curtailing street and sidewalk maintenance …….

    The "Hey, we have our own money !" call from the Nature Center, they`re still on the list of possible cuts and closings.

    It`s all optics, the things that people like, that will be painful if closed, are the things on the list.

    Oh, add freezes in cop and fire-fighter hirings and other city emps, n the like !

  24. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 3:18 pm

    Rove said it ? OH, WELL, THAT changes EVERYTHING !!

    BOTH !! It`s a big mountain and plenty of room to shift around to miss the big cracks ! Look at a pic !

  25. jeffythequick on April 4th, 2013 3:22 pm

    Having not watched (or listened to on my XM) Fox since the election, I can't wait to get moved into a new house (we're buying one in South Mukilteo… Mrs. thequick refuses to say 'Lynnwood') and get the satellite dish up so we can watch The Blaze TV. I've been a Wilkow fan for a while, and it will be a welcome departure from the Helium Balloon in the car, O'Reillyu

  26. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 3:37 pm

    I just wish more people would call their bluff. I say let these idiot politicians close down the "popular programs" and cut back on law enforcement and fire-fighting. Let it happen while continue to highlight the BS that takes priorty.

    Like MM did (yesterday I beleive) on Hannity where she pointed out federal workers are facing furloughs but dear leader is still throwing parties (yet closing the WH to school kids) and going on vacations.

    The sequestration may have been the best thing to happen as the public is waking up to the BS and are none too happy. As a matter of fact people here at work who voted for dear leader are deriding dear leaders "i'm giving up 5% of my pay to show solidarity with the worker". They see it for what it is and are actually saying if he wanted to show solidarity he would quit the parties, the vacations and give up 20% of his pay as that is what he is telling the federal worker to do.

  27. Marshall_Will on April 4th, 2013 3:45 pm

    "closing swimming pools"

    Obvious PLOY there; ( do you really want your kids driving you up a WALL 'all' summer looong? ) And we all know 'my' standard response: Fill it in w/ empty Busch Light tallboys for all I care? Wah-zang…

  28. Marshall_Will on April 4th, 2013 3:51 pm

    JTQ,

    Not sure which way FN is taking that but "not since the election" HAS to be a refrain they're hearing over and OVER again…

    Ahem, the following day I made my case for a *total* makeover w/ all new hosts, sets and most importantly; concepts..! Almost universally Conservatives wanted to see Dr. Frank Luntz have a much broader, townhall type exposure and obviously all MM fans would LOVE to see the inverse, Sean Hannity getting (5) minutes a week on HER show!

    And STILL they've stayed the course… What is this, Moses and Ramesses? Btw I know a lot of nice people in 'Lynnwood'.

  29. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 4:12 pm

    Exactly. I would love to see a lot more of Dr Ben Carson and a lot less of O'Reilly.

  30. Truesoldier__ on April 4th, 2013 4:22 pm

    O/T…Rep Chaffetz tweets that while at the border in AZ he sees school kids getting out of schoola nd crossing the border to go home:
    http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/04/chaffetz-childr

  31. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 5:53 pm

    On the stairs with yellow-painted hand rails !

  32. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 6:00 pm

    The whole sequester-lasting-to-implementation thing is a type of "calling their bluff" ! Barry and the left were just certain Weepy would cave and make a last minute deal to avoid those "Draconian Cuts" that were sure to happen.

    Yes indeed, "IF they were serious" about cutting / giving back some of their pay, they`d have done it early on before it became a point of shame and a band wagon hopping-on circus show AND they`d have made the give back a more significant amount. It`s all optics ….AGAIN !!

  33. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 6:07 pm

    Swimming pools are another thing that pay most of their own way. There are some repair / safety upgrade costs that aren`t covered by admissions, but obviously the taxpaying public is willing to pay for that !

  34. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 6:19 pm

    The City of Asheville cannot annex adjacent developments by using water-sewer access as a bargaining tool, charging higher rates for non-city residents, unlike most other cities because of The Sullivan Acts. The city has fought it in court, spent $Bajillions in legal fees and lost every time. The People have spoken. That`s part of the argument, while the city maintains that it isn`t. (pause for laughter)

    The city has run a budget shortfall of about $6 M for many years, but with dem control of city council, county board of commissioners and the state leg., they have always worked / shifted around it. Funny thing now, we have an R controlled state gov. Suddenly, that shifting can`t be done and it`s all the R`s fault !

    As the local talk show host said, "The Civic Center Banquet Hall where yesterday`s townhall was held must stink to high Heaven today, what with all the pissin` n moanin` that went on !"

    I`m Thank GOD I live that 7 miles west of that county !

  35. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 6:27 pm

    I like that idea; more MM, LI, FL and the like and far less of BO`s ilk.

    MM could get VERY High ratings and you know she can cypher the news ! Having her own show would create nuclear-grade lefty head explosions !

  36. SignPainterGuy on April 4th, 2013 6:31 pm

    Good luck with the new home purchase and move. I hope you get nice neighbors !

  37. Pasadena Phil on April 4th, 2013 7:36 pm

    Mixed feelings. I think O'Reilly was wrong to use the term in the context he used it. On the other hand, I resent evangelicals who get into public "dueling bible spats" and who get in your face to argue everything on the basis of "what the bible says". Don't get me started on the Intelligent Design "scientists". They are the worst.

  38. rosa on April 5th, 2013 10:32 am

    Geez why all the euphemisms? Let's call a spade a spade … or a felon!

  39. SignPainterGuy on April 5th, 2013 11:46 am

    How `bout "Illegal Criminal Felon" ?

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