A basic rule of shooting is “be sure of your target and what’s beyond it,” but the arguments of people like Joe Biden are predicated on the person handling the gun being a poorly trained buffoon. Pluggers also doesn’t do anybody any favors by constantly pushing the view that, in a general sense, one kind of a gun is “safer” than another:

Biden: In terms of home protection, you know, they make fun of my saying about use a shotgun if somebody’s invading your home. Guess what — use a shotgun if somebody’s invading your home, you don’t kill your kids. Use an AR-15 is goes through the wall and can kill your kid in the bedroom.

Guess what — a shotgun can also kill your kid if you blindly “shoot through the door” like Biden advised. A shotgun in the hands of somebody not properly trained to use it can accidentally kill somebody just the same as an AR-15 in the hands of somebody not properly trained to use it.

Between a rifle and a shotgun, the shotgun would be the preferable weapon in a closed quarters encounter like that (at least for me it would — your mileage may vary). However, Biden’s continual insinuation that a shotgun is somehow safer in the hands of the same hypothetical person who, in his scenario, would shoot an AR-15 in the direction of his kid’s bedroom, is ridiculous.

In any case, how any of this would have prevented another Sandy Hook is anybody’s guess. I thought that’s what this was originally supposed to be about.

Related update: The NRA shreds Nanny Bloomberg’s gun ad.


36 Responses to “Biden: Shotgun Better Than AR-15 for Home Defense Because an AR-15 Could Kill Your Kids”

  1. Truesoldier__ on April 17th, 2013 4:12 pm

    Any firearm would be dangerous to children in the hands of Plugs. Remember it isn't the "gun" that accidentally kills a kid….it is the moron that is mishandling the firearm that does that.

  2. @alSeen14 on April 17th, 2013 4:24 pm

    I recommend reading this.

    A carbine with the right ammunition is better for home defense than a shotgun or handgun.

  3. Truesoldier__ on April 17th, 2013 4:24 pm

    O/T…It is being reported that they have made an arrest in the bombing. No details about the person arrested as of yet:

  4. Truesoldier__ on April 17th, 2013 4:39 pm

    Let it to the UK press to have more about this than the US press:

    It is also now being reported that there has not been an arrest made, just that a suspect has been identified, so there are conflicting reports on whether or not they have someone in custody or not.

    And there are conflicting reports as to the identity of the suspect. The Daily Mail (UK) reports it was a darkskinned man, while CBS is reporting it is a white male.

    Update: News Conference at 5pm est. Also, CNN is also reporting that the suspect is a "dark skinned male".

  5. Doug on April 17th, 2013 4:48 pm

    Thanks TS… I'll check it out!

  6. Doug on April 17th, 2013 5:12 pm

    Now they're saying no arrests:

  7. Truesoldier__ on April 17th, 2013 5:19 pm

    The LA Times is reporting that there are 2 suspects that authorities are looking at.

    And now it is being reported that the courthouse in Boston has been evacuated:

  8. backwoodsconsr on April 17th, 2013 6:11 pm

    I don't know how I survived for so many years without the wisdom of Joe Biden to guide me.

  9. Truesoldier__ on April 17th, 2013 6:21 pm

    I use his wisdom all the time. Whatever Plugs says, I do the opposite…..

  10. SignPainterGuy on April 17th, 2013 6:46 pm

    If Biden said it –> it`s wrong –> DON`T DO THAT !! Check !!

  11. Truesoldier__ on April 17th, 2013 6:48 pm

    On the gun grab going on in the Senate….the Senate has killed the background check bill:

  12. Whom on April 17th, 2013 6:55 pm

    So he's trying to imply that the right to bears arms is only about protecting your family in a home invasion? Sorry Plugs, we know it's really about allowing the populace to protect themselves from a future out of contro,l tyrannical, insane gov.. much like the one we enjoy currently.

    Of course he knows that as well, thus the effort to disarm us.

  13. SignPainterGuy on April 17th, 2013 7:01 pm

    It has been noted several times by Rush and Glenn that the UK press does get it first and correct more often than their counter parts here, even with their well-known leftist bent. I also think they have an underlying anti-American bent, so if telling the truth hurts America, even if it doesn`t quite fit the lib narrative, they`ll do it.

    5:pm FBI news conf. has been postponed.

  14. SignPainterGuy on April 17th, 2013 7:03 pm

    RE: the courthouse evac.; I smell fish.

  15. Truesoldier__ on April 17th, 2013 7:06 pm

    O/T…The McConnel bugging just got bigger:

    For days, Democrats in the state and nationally have sought to cast the duo as a pair of bungling amateurs who simply got in over their heads and made a series of bad decisions. But the White House visit suggests the distance from Reilly to his party's leaders may not have been quite that far.

    The White House visitors log, showing Reilly met with administration officials Dec. 5th, appears to have been signed in by Victoria McCullough, a staff assistant to Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett.

  16. Truesoldier__ on April 17th, 2013 7:43 pm

    More on gun control. Not sure exactly what is going on, but dear leader is delivering a statement right now on "measures to reduce gun violence". My guess he is issuing EO's seeing as the gun grab bills do not look like they will even clear the Senate.

    Also, Bloomy is fumming over the defeat:

    And F'instein is ticked off as well: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/345876/feins

    And Biden is doing an impression of Boehner: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-wipes-a

  17. SignPainterGuy on April 17th, 2013 9:37 pm

    It was mostly a good day for us Pro 2nd As.

  18. backwoodsconsr on April 17th, 2013 10:03 pm

    At least one thing, Joe Biden doesn't have to worry about accidently blowing his brains out.

  19. Marshall_Will on April 17th, 2013 11:29 pm


    Correct. Sheriff Joe's been circling the media posse around that defective narrative from Day 1. Of course playing to a paranoid, hyper security vein that even if properly posed presents but a small fraction of Rights as Americans.

    Good catch!

  20. Marshall_Will on April 17th, 2013 11:33 pm

    "McCullough is a designated "waver" in Jarrett's office: because of security restrictions, only certain members of each office have the authority to "wave in" visitors to the White House."

    That and the Muslim Brotherhood… Truly messed up. Nothing to see HERE folks…?

  21. Marshall_Will on April 17th, 2013 11:34 pm

    Made my DAY on the treadmill to the point I went out and got a run around the Base..!


  22. Marshall_Will on April 17th, 2013 11:35 pm


    Mission Accomplished.

  23. Marshall_Will on April 17th, 2013 11:41 pm

    Nowhere NEARS as profound as Doug's musical server or Joyanna's woes, but in signing the short term lease Mrs. W didn't realize the apt. didn't offer internet service!

    MM, Doug and basically anyone worth READING is blocked from the Base ISP and the old laptop is giving fits on wireless connectivity. It's become a boat anchor anyway. Good to see all is up and running!

    Good to see The Nuge break it off in Erin Burnett's SHORTS. As a long time stock trader I can honestly say she was one of the FEW [former] journotools that actually covered the Housing Bubble with candor and objectivity. Now she'd be better off being a wine critic.

  24. Marshall_Will on April 17th, 2013 11:48 pm

    Haven't been to MM's etc. but we barely sat down from our "burger run" off base when we sat down to the BMB. You could TELL there was something different the minute the story broke.

    Just wanted to applaud all the conservative commentators that stood back, speculated NOTHING and patiently watched on as this admin. & sycophants promptly fell on their sword..! Should have heard the troops LAUGH when O'Drama instantly morphed into NLAGCGTW Mode and how they *shrieked* when he "vowed to hold them accountable".

    The refrain in unison was; "He mean like he did for Benghazi?" Just laughable. My new landlord, all of 30 might as well be a poster here. Mentioned his initial gut response was they'll use this lame excuse to post TSA at every sporting event from here on out! Time will tell. Besides, whose even GOING any more!?

  25. SignPainterGuy on April 18th, 2013 12:20 am

    "New Apt." ? Are you out of your house or is this in Cali or whut ?

  26. Pasadena Phil on April 18th, 2013 1:21 am

    Cali? You actually moved to Santa Clarita?

  27. Pasadena Phil on April 18th, 2013 1:39 am

    If the amnesty bill crashes and burns like the gun grabbing bills just did today, and now that people are reading the bill it's passage is becoming less and less likely, I can't see ObamaCare surviving. The entrenched political establishment is in trouble all of a sudden and Obama's very childish and unpresidential tirade a few hours ago is telling us that they are near panic and have lost their confidence. This is when you go in for the kill. Get them running and pursue relentlessly.

    I'm also wondering why Obama had an unscheduled meeting with a Saudi delegate at the WH this afternoon. The explanation given was concern over the US backing Al Qaeda in Syria but why now? Could it be that the bomber's identity is known and it might be very embarrassing to the Saudi royal family if it becomes public? Wild speculation but I really doubt it had to do with Syria.

    And there sure seem to be an unusual amount of misinformation being leaked by unnamed police and FBI investigators on the Boston investigation. Is there anyone in charge over there? The MSM keeps referring to a "fluid situation" and "the fog of war" to explain it away but let's call it what it is: incompetence and a lack of professional discipliine.

  28. rosa on April 18th, 2013 10:28 am

    The Second Amendment is simply keeping in line with every person's God-given right to defend themselves. But in the USA, the Second Amendment also ensures the right of revolution.

  29. Truesoldier__ on April 18th, 2013 1:26 pm

    Greaty observations. As to the Suadi Prince visit, I am hearing some rublings that the Saudi student who was questioned is now being listed on the deportation list due to being a security risk. Still trying to confirm if that is true or just rumor, so take it with a grain of salt.

  30. SignPainterGuy on April 18th, 2013 1:38 pm


    Glenn broke this this morning.

  31. SignPainterGuy on April 18th, 2013 1:41 pm

    I started to post a reply to you last night, that I thought the WH had issued "orders" to the media and perhaps even the BPD to hush up, but I felt there was more, so I deleted it and waited.

    See the Blaze link below in reply to TS.

  32. ciaociao123 on March 23rd, 2014 7:38 pm

    On the other hand, our Canadian neighbors have far more guns (per capita) in the hands of the populace, and far less gun violence. Owning a gun it's a common thing now. I actually got an AR15 from Harris. It almost makes one think that the national debate about gun control is a giant red herring so we as a people don't have to face up to the fact that American culture is broken.

  33. Jeffry on May 10th, 2014 10:43 am

    Biden’s continual insinuation that a shotgun is somehow safer in the hands of the same hypothetical person who, in his scenario, would shoot an AR-15 in the direction of his kid’s bedroom, is ridiculous.

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