At this point it’s looking like a shutdown is all but a given. Harry Reid’s certainly in no rush to get anything done before the clock runs out.

Here’s Reid’s response to the House Republican offer:

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Even if a shutdown happens, though the Dems will try and freak out their low-info voter base (much like their fiscal cliff and sequester apocalyptic scare mongering predictions that never came to fruition), people will realize it’s not the end of the world. This is what panics Washington — the thought that people might realize they can live without large chunks of the federal government.

It’s looking like the military will be funded (the House submitted military funding on a separate resolution). So the only way the military and vets wouldn’t be paid or get their benefits would be if the Senate Dems really want to turn the screws and make the shutdown as painful as possible. We’ll find out later today.

The “this isn’t the way the system was designed to be” whiners are overlooking something: This is exactly the way the system was designed to be:

Article I, Section 7 states that all revenue bills shall originate in the House of Representatives but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on any other bills. The reason for this is that at the time the Constitution was written, it was felt that Senators would be more wealthy than Representatives and might be willing to spend more government money than the Representatives would. Also, the House with its greater numbers was seen as being the better gauge of the wishes of the people for spending measures.

Dems have to pretend this sort of squabbling is “unprecedented” (hardly) in part so they can keep pushing their “racist Republicans just hate the black president” meme. We’re going to hear a lot more of that, assuming a shutdown moves forward.

Oh, and if you were wondering, if there’s a shutdown, the president and Congress will continue to be paid. How surprising.

Update 9:50pm ET: The Senate, as expected, rejected the House CR that would fund government through mid-December but delay the entirety of Obamacare (what parts haven’t already been delayed, such as the individual mandate).

Earlier today the Senate did pass a separate funding bill that means the military will continue to be paid even in the event of a shutdown, which looks to be a certainty at this point.

Update II 11:59pm ET:

The shutdown is official… for now:

Comments

7 Responses to “Ready for the Shutdown Blame Game?; Updated”

  1. Truesoldier__ on September 30th, 2013 2:03 pm

    One of the interesting things I have been seeing in this whole deal is the polling. Right now the polls are saying that the Republicans will get more of the blame for a shutdown. The only problem is the possible choices for the poll question regarding blame and a shutdown. The majority of them seem to only give three possible answers:

    1) Congressional Republicans
    2) The President
    3) Both the Congressional Republicans and the President

    Notice how the polls seem to leave Congressional Democrats off the list entirely? It makes me wonder just what the polls would look like if the Dems were included. Here is the polling question in the latest poll (and a link to the entire poll)

    If the federal government shuts down, do you think that Barack Obama or the Republicans in
    Congress would be more responsible for that?
    Sept. 27-29 Sept. 6-8 March 15-17 Sept. 23-25 March 11-13
    2013 2013 2013 2011 2011
    Obama 36% 33% 38% 33% 37%
    Republicans in Congress 46% 51% 40% 47% 46%
    Both (vol.) 13% 12% 19% 17% 14%
    Neither (vol.) 2% 3% 2% 1% 1%
    No opinion 2% 1% 1% 2% 2%
    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/09/30/re

  2. backwoodsconsr on September 30th, 2013 9:23 pm

    That's Harry Reid demonstrating the famed collegiality of the United States Senate. His esteemed colleague John McCain must be very proud of him.

  3. backwoodsconsr on October 1st, 2013 10:34 am

    Boss! Boss! The blame! The blame!

  4. doriangrey1 on October 1st, 2013 12:16 pm
  5. Truesoldier__ on October 1st, 2013 12:56 pm

    And now the Senate has voted (along party lines) to not negotiate with the House. Basically the vote says the only the Senate will pass is the "clean bill" that the Senate passed last week (after stripping out the Obamacare defunding). Talk about deciding to own the shutdown.

  6. ChapBix on October 1st, 2013 4:34 pm

    This entire debacle has its roots in the failure of Sen. Reid and Senate Dems who control the Senate to follow regular order in passing appropriations bills since 2007. As I understand it, the taxes in Obamacare originated in the Senate in violation of the constitution. That issue has yet to be addressed in the courts. Time for the House to return to regular order in passing appropriations bills and sending them to Sen Reid. If he rejects them, the shutdown is on him.

  7. ChapBix on October 1st, 2013 4:37 pm

    "Talk about deciding to own the shutdown. "
    Press that point at every opportunity in every venue possible.

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